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		<title>By: Iraida</title>
		<link>http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/2008/04/28/tag-engine-user-centered-navigation-and-findability-prwd-e-commerce-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not marry with foolishness. There may be children.</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best Practice for Multifaceted Navigation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Best Practice for Multifaceted Navigation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tagging content and providing tag clouds to represent large sets of data [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Introduction - User Centered Navigation and Findability :: PRWD E-commerce Platform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke and PRWD on User Centered Design &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Introduction - User Centered Navigation and Findability :: PRWD E-commerce Platform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sam Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/2008/04/28/tag-engine-user-centered-navigation-and-findability-prwd-e-commerce-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to those points Paul mentioned. All tag input is forced into lowercase when processed using server-side tools. So even if you typed &quot;MyTaG&quot; it would be stored as &quot;mytag&quot;.

Within the engine, tags are only stored once. A lot of the functionality within the tag class provides methods that check for existing identical tags before registering new ones, and conversely check for existing identical tags when removing one. The engine also generates a tag cloud and performs the searching by tag functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to those points Paul mentioned. All tag input is forced into lowercase when processed using server-side tools. So even if you typed &#8220;MyTaG&#8221; it would be stored as &#8220;mytag&#8221;.</p>
<p>Within the engine, tags are only stored once. A lot of the functionality within the tag class provides methods that check for existing identical tags before registering new ones, and conversely check for existing identical tags when removing one. The engine also generates a tag cloud and performs the searching by tag functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke</title>
		<link>http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/2008/04/28/tag-engine-user-centered-navigation-and-findability-prwd-e-commerce-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan,

You are right in thinking that we have implemented an AJAX driven suggest tool in the admin area, which allows the administrator to not only see existing tags for possible ideas but also to simply click any relevant tag in order to assign it to a particular product or dynamic category.

When we introduced our client to the back-end of the platform we informed them that for uniformity tags should be entered in all lowercase, and this is a principal that they have adhered to.

As the tags were going to a highly visible navigation tool for customers, and that for certain attributes and customer situations couldn&#039;t be described in just 1 word, it was imperative that the tags could be multi-word, such as &#039;ebay seller&#039;, &#039;surface protection&#039;, &#039;printed adhesive tapes&#039; etc. Additionally when entering multiple different tags to a individual product the tags needed to be comma separated rather than space separated.

By using commas between each tag, this ensured that multi word tags didn&#039;t need to have hyphens between each word, which ensures on the front end the tags are displayed as natural phrases and not hyphen-separated-tags.

Moving into user generated tags, this presents its own challenges in terms of what access level ie. registered visitor, existing customer etc, a user needs to have in order to be able to create their own tags, along with policing the user generated tags.

I will provide more insight into our methodology for this when we launch a platform which allows for user generated tags.

I hope this has been a useful insight into our approach.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,</p>
<p>You are right in thinking that we have implemented an AJAX driven suggest tool in the admin area, which allows the administrator to not only see existing tags for possible ideas but also to simply click any relevant tag in order to assign it to a particular product or dynamic category.</p>
<p>When we introduced our client to the back-end of the platform we informed them that for uniformity tags should be entered in all lowercase, and this is a principal that they have adhered to.</p>
<p>As the tags were going to a highly visible navigation tool for customers, and that for certain attributes and customer situations couldn&#8217;t be described in just 1 word, it was imperative that the tags could be multi-word, such as &#8216;ebay seller&#8217;, &#8217;surface protection&#8217;, &#8216;printed adhesive tapes&#8217; etc. Additionally when entering multiple different tags to a individual product the tags needed to be comma separated rather than space separated.</p>
<p>By using commas between each tag, this ensured that multi word tags didn&#8217;t need to have hyphens between each word, which ensures on the front end the tags are displayed as natural phrases and not hyphen-separated-tags.</p>
<p>Moving into user generated tags, this presents its own challenges in terms of what access level ie. registered visitor, existing customer etc, a user needs to have in order to be able to create their own tags, along with policing the user generated tags.</p>
<p>I will provide more insight into our methodology for this when we launch a platform which allows for user generated tags.</p>
<p>I hope this has been a useful insight into our approach.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul,

I know in systems I&#039;ve been involved with, I&#039;ve seen problems with users entering tags in different cases and spellings, with or without white space.  Often you see AJAX powered &#039;suggest&#039; tools.  Is this something you guys have done or have you found a different solution to managing tags in the back-end?

Do you force users into sticking with upper/lower-case input or save all as lower-case for consistency?  Do you allow for multi-word tags or (like del.icio.us) have to make these into a single tags (no spaces)?

Always interesting to see different approaches and understand the reasoning behind them ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul,</p>
<p>I know in systems I&#8217;ve been involved with, I&#8217;ve seen problems with users entering tags in different cases and spellings, with or without white space.  Often you see AJAX powered &#8217;suggest&#8217; tools.  Is this something you guys have done or have you found a different solution to managing tags in the back-end?</p>
<p>Do you force users into sticking with upper/lower-case input or save all as lower-case for consistency?  Do you allow for multi-word tags or (like del.icio.us) have to make these into a single tags (no spaces)?</p>
<p>Always interesting to see different approaches and understand the reasoning behind them <img src='http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke</title>
		<link>http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/2008/04/28/tag-engine-user-centered-navigation-and-findability-prwd-e-commerce-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that info Sam. As your note confirms the tag engine really is geared towards handling vast&#039;s amount of tag information and the power of the engine will really come to the fore on much larger e-commerce sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that info Sam. As your note confirms the tag engine really is geared towards handling vast&#8217;s amount of tag information and the power of the engine will really come to the fore on much larger e-commerce sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.paulrouke.co.uk/2008/04/28/tag-engine-user-centered-navigation-and-findability-prwd-e-commerce-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a technical note to say that all tag vs. product matrixes are completed within MySQL only, with the resulting products returned to system. This ensures that the process of finding thousands of products grouped by one or many tags is highly optimised and there is only ever one call to the database.

May seem like common sense, but you&#039;d be surprised how many people don&#039;t do it this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a technical note to say that all tag vs. product matrixes are completed within MySQL only, with the resulting products returned to system. This ensures that the process of finding thousands of products grouped by one or many tags is highly optimised and there is only ever one call to the database.</p>
<p>May seem like common sense, but you&#8217;d be surprised how many people don&#8217;t do it this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Rouke on User Experience &#187; Introduction - User Centered Navigation and Findability :: PRWD E-commerce Platform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Rouke on User Experience &#187; Introduction - User Centered Navigation and Findability :: PRWD E-commerce Platform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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